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Agenda item
Determination of Premises Licence Application - NNN, 23 Shingrig Road, Nelson, CF46 6DY.
Minutes:
The Legal Advisor to the Sub Committee outlined the procedure for the meeting, including
the order of representations and the opportunities for all parties to ask
questions.
Mrs Kathryn Hopkins (Senior Licensing
Officer) presented the report and outlined the application for a new premises
licence at NNN (an off-licence store), 23 Shingrig
Road, Nelson, CF46 6DY.
Members were advised that the application sought to permit the supply of
alcohol (off sales only) between Monday to Saturday 08:00 –
22:00
and Sunday 09:00-22:00. Mrs Hopkins
outlined the Licensing Act 2003 requirements in relation to the advertisement
of applications and was satisfied that all relevant requirements had been
complied with.
During the 28-day consultation period, representations were received
from Gwent Police and Children’s Services, together with the Licensing Authority in their role as Responsible Authority who had given
their apologies for today’s hearing. These
were summarised in Section 1.6 of the report.
A representation was also received from one local resident who had
objected to the application owing to concerns around parking, potential noise
increase and littering, and the applicant had responded to these as set out in
Appendix 9 of the report to allay any concerns.
Attention was
drawn to the local policy considerations as set out in the report and to the
way in which the Sub-Committee would deal with the application. Members were referred to the recommendation
set out in the Licensing report, which considered the position of Responsible
Authorities and their advocated comments as opposed to any objection, and also
the comments of the local resident. It
was therefore recommended that the application be granted as applied for,
subject to a number of agreed conditions as set out in the report.
There were no questions received for
Licensing and representations were then invited from the
applicant, NNN Stores.
Mr C. Grunert (John
Gaunt and Partners) spoke on behalf of his client (Mr N. Thavarasa) and explained
that the premises had previously been a childcare centre and his client was
hoping to reinstate this as a retail outlet.
The convenience store would offer a wide range of products and alcohol
would be on offer, but it was emphasised that this would not dominate sales or
compete in range and price with supermarkets.
Mr Grunert explained that the store was
looking to offer convenience to elderly customers who do not drive, and that
the premises would bring a business and their family into an empty unit.
Mr Grunert referred
to the concerns around parking and highlighted that this was not a licensing
consideration but did confirm that his client would advise customers not to
park outside the shop. In regards to
potential noise nuisance, Mr Thavarasa was prepared
to put up notices asking customers to leave quietly. He explained that the premises is located on
a main arterial road and he did not expect that customers leaving would add to
the background levels of noise.
Mr Grunert referred to the recommendations
made by Gwent Police and confirmed that these had been fully accepted by the
applicant and that many of the concerns had been addressed. In his view, the hours sought were modest and
mirror the opening hours of the shop. Mr
Grunert also highlighted the licensing experience of
both Mr and Mrs Thavarasa and the responsible way in
which they would run the premises. Mr Grunert took on board the concerns of the local resident
but did not feel this was justification to refuse the application. He emphasised that his client was willing to
fully engage in regards to any concerns and would promote all the licensing
objectives and take these responsibilities on board.
There were no questions received for the applicant and representations
were then invited from Responsible Authorities.
PC Adrian Jones referred to the representation
from Gwent Police made by his colleague (PC Karina Williams). He confirmed that Gwent Police had no
objections to the premises application and were satisfied with the conditions
that had been agreed by the applicant.
There were no questions for Gwent Police. It was noted that Children’s Services were
not in attendance owing to another meeting and all parties were then afforded the opportunity to sum up before the
Licensing and Gambling Sub Committee retired to make its decision.
Mrs Kathryn Hopkins (Senior Licensing Officer) referred Members to the
report recommendation but reminded that the Sub Committee that this was only a
recommendation and the matter was for their determination.
PC Adrian Jones
(Gwent Police) referred to the representation and conditions agreed by the
applicant and confirmed he had nothing to add.
Mr Grunert (applicant’s representative)
referred to national guidance issued under Section 182 of the Licensing Act
2003 in relation to expert evidence, and in view of the lack of objections
received, hoped this would have a bearing on determination of the application.
The
Legal Advisor informed all parties present that the Sub Committee would retire
to consider the representations made at the meeting and they would be informed
in writing of the decision in the next 5 days.
The Sub Committee retired at 10.24 a.m. to make its decision and all
other parties left the meeting.
Following consideration of the application for the variation of a club
premises certificate for NNN, 23 Shingrig Road, Nelson, CF46 6DY, and having regard to the Licensing Manager’s report and all the
representations made, the Licensing and Gambling Sub Committee unanimously
RESOLVED that the
application for a new premises licence as set out in Section 1.3 of the
Licensing Officer’s report be GRANTED, subject to the 7 conditions as set out
in Section 1.10 of the report. For ease of
reference, these are attached to the minutes.
In making their decision, the Sub Committee
considered all four Licensing Objectives, the Licensing Act 2003, revised Home
Office Guidance and Caerphilly Council’s Licensing
Policy.
The Sub Committee gave significant weight to the representations made by
the Responsible Authorities and took into account the willingness of the
Applicant’s to meaningfully engage with the Responsible Authorities during the
consultation process. It also gave weight
to the previous experience that the Applicant has of supplying alcohol in a
retail setting. The Sub Committee
considered each of the 7 proposed conditions of the premises licence and
determined that each proportionately sought to uphold the four licensing
objectives.
The Sub Committee took into account the written representations made by
the local resident. The Sub Committee
gave very little weight to the issue raised based on car parking and traffic
flow. It considered that such objections
were more akin to planning objections rather than directly concerning the four
licencing objectives. The Sub Committee
took into account that the Applicant’s business was a standard convenience
store and there was little direct link between the licensable activity
(supplying alcohol via off sales) and the suggested problems caused by
increased traffic and parking demand.
The store itself may well increase such traffic, but there was no
evidence that this would be the case due to it selling alcohol for off-site consumption.
The Sub Committee took into account the objection raised in regards to
potential noise nuisance. It was not
convinced on the evidence/representations placed before it that this was such a
concern that would warrant the refusal of the application, and that the agreed
conditions had adequately addressed such concerns. It was mindful that there was no clear
evidence of why noise would be associated with the licensable activity rather
than the general noise of operating a corner store. Similarly, in regards to the risk of youths
congregating, there was little explanation as to why this would necessarily
occur as a result of the licensable activity.
In this respect, the Sub Committee gave significant weight to the
representations made by Gwent Police, and the conditions relating to the
prevention of under-age sales which the Applicant readily agreed to be bound
by.
In summary, the Sub Committee were not persuaded on the basis of the
resident’s written representations that any of the four licensing objectives
would be undermined warranting the refusal of the application sought.
The decision notice advised that any person
aggrieved by the decision had the right to appeal to the local Magistrates
Court within 21 days from the date of written notification of the decision.
The meeting closed at 11.00 a.m.
APPENDIX
Conditions applicable to the grant of the
licence as per Section 1.10 of the Licensing Manager’s report:-
- CCTV shall
be in use at the premises.
Where a CCTV
system is to be installed, extended or replaced, it shall be to an appropriate
standard as agreed with the Licensing Authority in consultation with the
Police. Where a CCTV system is to be
installed, it shall be fully operational by the date the licence is
granted.
The CCTV
equipment shall be maintained in good working order and continually record when
licensable activity takes place and for a period of two hours afterwards The
premises licence holder shall ensure images from the CCTV are retained for a
period of 31 days. This image retention
period may be reviewed as appropriate by the Licensing Authority;
The correct time
and date will be generated onto both the recording and the real time image
screen;
If the CCTV
equipment (including any mobile units in use at the premises) breaks down the
Premises Licence Holder shall ensure the designated premises supervisor, or in
his/her absence other responsible person, verbally informs the Licensing
Authority and the Police as soon as is reasonably practicable. This information shall be contemporaneously
recorded in the incident report register and shall include the time, date and
means this was done and to whom the information was reported. Equipment failures shall be repaired or
replaced as soon as is reasonably practicable and without undue delay. The Licensing Authority and the Police shall
be informed when faults are rectified;
The premise
licence holder shall ensure that there are trained members of staff available
during licensable hours to be able to reproduce and download CCTV images into a
removable format at the request of any authorised officer of the Licensing
Authority or a constable;
There shall be
clear signage indicating that CCTV equipment is in use and recording at the
premises.
- There shall
be no consumption of alcohol beverages purchased from the premises in open
containers outside at the front of the premises.
- Should customers
be outside the premises causing congestion, loitering and/or causing
Anti-Social Behaviour they will be told move away from the vicinity.
- An incident
report logbook shall be held at the premises at all times and shall be
produced to an authorised officer of the Licensing Authority or a
constable immediately upon request.
It shall contain the details of persons involved, incident
description, time and date, actions taken and final outcome of the
situation. Records to be maintained for a minimum of 12 months.
- All staff are to be trained with respect
to underage sales, such training to be updated on an annual basis or when
legislation changes and should include training in how to refuse sales to
difficult customers. Safeguarding
training should also be undertaken with all staff. Training should be clearly documented,
signed and dated by both the trainer and member of staff receiving it.
This documentation should be available for inspection on request by an
authorised officer of the Licensing Authority or a Constable.
- An approved
proof of age scheme shall be adopted, implemented and advertised within
the premise such as ‘Challenge 25’ whereby an accepted form of
photographic identification shall be requested before any alcohol is sold
to any person who appears to be under 25 years of age. Acceptable proof of age shall include
identification bearing the customers photograph, date of birth and
integral holographic mark or security measure. Suitable means of identification would
include PASS approved proof of age card, photo-card driving licence and
passport.
- Rowdy and/or
disorderly customers will be asked to leave the premises.
Supporting documents:
- Report NNN, item 3. PDF 398 KB
- Appendix 1, item 3. PDF 232 KB
- Appendix 2, item 3. PDF 270 KB
- Appendix 3, item 3. PDF 423 KB
- Appendix 4, item 3. PDF 385 KB
- Appendix 5, item 3. PDF 125 KB
- Atodiad 6, item 3. PDF 474 KB
- Atodiad 7, item 3. PDF 143 KB
- Atodiad 8, item 3. PDF 431 KB
- Atodiad 9, item 3. PDF 309 KB